Its all very simple folks two thousand and ten is a number, twenty ten is a date. The facebook group its twentyten, not twothousand and ten lists 593 members. The usage is parallel to calling the year 1901 nineteenohone rather than nineteen hundredone, yet it. Car makers are using both picking the longer two thousand ten version in television commercials for larger, more luxurious models and the shorter twenty ten for the sportier sedans. According to a 2000 australian broadcasting company poll, 60 per cent of respondents favoured two thousand ten over twenty ten, reported the seattle times.
Two thousand and ten british the biggest controversy about the year right now is whether it should be called twenty ten or two thousand ten. For 1910 do you say nineteen hundred ten or nineteen ten. I think by the year 2010, it will be half and half half going for twenty ten, and half opting for two thousand ten. In school, my teachers would interchangeably say twenty ten and two thousand and ten.
The only reason we did two thousand is because it was a new millenium. If you are actually referring to a countable quantity, though, you must use the full standard form. I will say twenty ten probably the majority of the time. I suspect americans will shorten it to twenty ten in the same way in which they say 911 while the british will say two thousand and ten much as we say september the 11th. When it hit 2010, we started mostly saying twentyten, twentyeleven. I did some research and came to a conclusion in my latest article. Generally, the early years of the 21st century were pronounced as two thousand and five, with a change taking place in 2010, where pronunciations often shift between the earlyyear standard of two thousand and ten and the common approach used in the late 20th century of twenty ten. Torriglia, who is writing a book he calls the grammar police never. The mixup continued until now, the final year of the decade. We had the 80s, the 90s, but what do you call the 00s. I suspect that this will be a matter of discussion for another 12 months. I voted two thousand ten, however i know that i will become lazy at some point and revert to saying twenty ten. The year two thousand was such a novelty for the silly people the media that they celebrated the millenia a whole year too early, just 99 years after celebrating the arrival of the 20th century. Also, what do you call the decade that is about to end.
Valerie wilkinson, a new member, wrote on the groups wall. I mean would native speakers bre use them interchangeably to talk about numbers. But by the year 2020, it will be all over but the shoutin. Its not wrong to say two thousand ten, lakoff said. Neither do the twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, sixties.
The four digits, 2010, are not in dispute, but how we say them evidently is. When you hear the year 2010 or 2020 pronounced as two. I say eiither nineteen fifty or nineteen hundred and fifty. Twenty ten seems to be the hip thing, but im also hearing two thousand ten a lot. All i could think of while i listened was that george orwells book was nineteen eightyfour, not one thousand nine hundred eightyfour. So, for something light on the last day of the decade during which we have said two thousand one and two thousand nine and so on, even though we say ten sixty six when referring to the date of the norman conquest of england. I said nineteen ninetynine, not nineteen hundred and ninetynine. Nagg has decided to step in and decree that 2010 should officially be pronounced twenty ten, and all subsequent years should be pronounced as twenty eleven, twenty twelve, etc.
Mignon fogarty is the founder of quick and dirty tips and the author of seven books on language, including the. Its used for things that are labelled with numbers, but for which the number does not indicate an actual. His explanation involves cognitive reference points, standards of speech and recognizing. Weve carried that two thousand through these first ten years, but we should return to the twenty xx format next year. People were conditioned when the movie came out, said the former technical writer, 56, who is now working on his own book, the grammar police never sleep. If youre the go green save the earth type, saying twenty ten takes less energy and by say it, your body produces less carbon monoxide than saying two thousand and ten. Is there a movie for the book twenty and ten answers. Ill be going with two thousand and ten for this year, but next year ill say twenty eleven. Twenty ten or two thousand and ten are both acceptable. As the new year is approaching i am forming a new pet peeve.
Are we going to call next year two thousand ten or. Other talk 2010 twentyten or two thousand ten are you pronouncing next year as twentyten or twothousand ten. On syllabic efficiency twenty ten or two thousand ten. I have no preference, really, but in thinking about which i more. Pronouncing the years 2021 through 2029 antimoon forum. The british called 2009 two thousand and nine so same thing i would have thought. Do you say twenty ten or two thousand and ten when. January 25, 2010 by jennifer price leave a comment almost as important as legal education, marketing your law firm and polishing your public speaking skills ranks way up there in an estate planning law practice. According to the national association of good grammar, twenty follows nineteen. Can we call it twenty ten instead of two thousand and. What is two to the power of ten and two to the power of.
Some people have definite thoughts as to which is correct and have written concerning their opinions. So eventually i bet most everyone will say twenty ten, eleven, twelve, etc etc saying twothousandtwentyfive just takes too long. The twenty ten movement and it is just that is spreading online. Then somebody decided to do something very unusual. For years after 2009, twenty eleven, twenty fourteen, etc. There was slight pressuse the past nine years not to confuse the year with two digit numbers like twenty nine, creating this. The usage is parallel to calling the year 1901 nineteenohone rather than nineteen hundredone, yet it never caught on with the general public. If you ever listen to charles osgood, you know he has been saying twentyoh one rather than two thousandone for, well, about nine years. More significant that just a new century, cf, nineteen hundred, or twenty one hundred. Other talk 2010 twentyten or two thousand ten originally posted by danwiz i see that people above me are saying the oughts which does not explain what 00s you are referring to the 1800s, the 1900s, the 2000s or what. I rather say twenty ten than say two thousand ten because its cooler.
While some say twentyten, others are referring to two thousand and ten and even twoooneo. The funny thing is ive heard people say 010, as in oh ten. Twenty ten adds to thirty and the year is not thirty and two thousand ten makes it iinto two thousand tens which is a big bifffity big numbere. It is the story of twenty children being taken care of by a nun, and their decision to harbor ten jewish children during the time of the nazi occupation. Twenty ten, because theres only 3 syllables, and two thousand ten has 4 syllables.
Nagg president tom torriglia says hes never understood why anyone said twothousandone in the first place. All thats happened is that these aught years have broken us of that nineteen or twenty habit. It is a very interesting story, and i only gave it three stars because it this really is a good book for its target audience. Twentyten vs two thousandten if you ever listen to charles osgood, you know he has been saying twenty ohone rather than two thousand one for, well, about nine years. If people pronounced the year 2000 as two thousand then it was understandable as it was easier to say than twenty hundred, but when the year 2010 comes it will be the reverse situation twenty ten will be easier than two thousand and ten unlike the americans we add the definite article in dates today is the twenty eighth of march for example. I dont know why but for some reason it fells natural to me to include the and from two thousand and one up to two thousand and ten but to switch to twenty. I think orwell prefered ninteen eightyfour over one thousand, nine hundred, eightyfour for the pronunciation of his book. Which is a more common way of saying 2010 two thousand and ten or twenty ten. The years 2000 to 2009 are most often read as two thousand, two thousand and one and the like by both british and american speakers. The standard form two thousand and ten can still be used in those cases.
Why do native speakers say two thousand and ten instead. I read many examples, so i am not asking anymore if the year 1066 can. Do you say 2020 like two thousand and twenty or twenty. For the years 19011909, i have heard in movies and read in books that these years were.